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Gedney Association: FASNY's Proposed Conservancy is a Distraction

The neighborhood group says the school's commitment to building it is only "aspirational."

Neighbors who have fought against French-American School of New York’s proposal to build a nursery school through twelfth grade campus on the former Ridgeway County Club site, say that FASNY’s Greens to Green Conservancy is a distraction from the fact that the development is inappropriate for the residential neighborhood. 

Gedney Association President Terence Guerriere questions whether the school is truly committed to building the conservancy, and said it only serves to divert attention away from the building of the campus, which some locals are concerned would overwhelm the surrounding streets with traffic and negatively impact the environmentally sensitive property. 

FASNY recently announced that it has hired Teatown Lake Reservation Inc. to study 84-acres of the 129-acre property—some of must legally remain open space, as it is considered wetlands. The Greens to Green Conservancy would serve as an open space passive recreational site that would also include educational components. 

Click to read that story, and here for Greens to Greens Conservancy's website at greenstogreen.org.

 “There’s nothing in the DEIS [draft environmental impact statement] that says they're definitely going to build it,” said Guerriere. “We’ll definitely see the negative impacts of the school on the environment and traffic, but we’re not necessarily going to see the conservancy. From my reading, this means they’ll build the school first, the upper, middle and lower schools, and then if they have the time, the inclination, and the money they will eventually built it.” 

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Guerriere is disappointed that the draft environmental impact statement for FASNY’s proposed site plan application referred to the conservation as being only “aspirational” without any language that holds FASNY to their promise. 

FASNY contends that the term “aspirational” only refers to the “programmatic” elements that could become a part of the conservancy, like a greenhouse, and not the conservancy as a whole. These elements would be dependant on whether or not there ends up being funding to make it happen.

“Creation of the Greens to Green Conservancy at the French-American School of New York at White Plains, is not aspirational,” said FASNY spokesperson Geoff Thompson. “It is an integral part of the school’s plan for the defunct Ridgeway Golf Club property.”

Thompson said that if the White Plains Common Council approves the project, the conservancy would be built and protected by a permanent conservation easement that will stay with the property in perpetuity, and that the school will maintain and provide security for the conservancy. 

“The Conservancy will be one of the largest open space properties in White Plains,” said Thompson. “The school’s innovative approach of retuning what has for decades been an intensively manipulated unnatural golf course environment to a natural state is unprecedented in the Westchester area.  It provides unique opportunities for environmental education and learning.” 

The City of White Plains is currently reviewing the DEIS for the proposed project, which would house about 1,200 students and 250 staff members, and would include the construction of:

  • an upper, middle and lower school totaling 230,863 sq ft.
  • three playgrounds
  • four tennis courts
  • four soccer fields
  • a six-lane track
  • basketball court
  • baseball diamond
  • softball diamonds
  • 428 parking spaces

Once the council determines that the DEIS is complete, it will conduct hearings for the public to weigh in on the document. FASNY has posted an online petition asking individuals to express their support for the project. 

“We look forward to the public hearings once application is deemed complete,” said Guerriere.  “We believe there is a growing number of people in White Plains who want to understand the full impact of the building of a educational facility this size. And who realize that it's too much, in the wrong place and that the French-American School chose the wrong place for their future and should perhaps look for a more appropriate campus site.”

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Racman63 July 12, 2012 at 06:53 pm
I live in the Highlands, so admittedly I won't be directly impacted by any supposed traffic difficulties, but I just don't get the anger towards this school. It's a private school! Ask the people in Rye who live near RCDS or the the people in Greenwich who live near GCDS; ask them whether those private schools hurt their home values? Do you think those people would put STOP GCDS or STOP RCDS on their lawns? This is a great thing for White Plains. Supporters of the school, like myself, don't seem to get heard. I know peole in Gedney Farms and Rosedale who support the school but remain respectfully silent. If there were a referendum I'd bet it would pass with overwhelming support.
Build it and build it soon. That's what I say.
Yvonne Gumowitz July 12, 2012 at 08:49 pm
Oddly there always seems to be an anonymous post pointing out "I live in White Plains... I think it is wonderful (no specific reasons are ever given), build it!" Build it and build it soon? What is your rush Racman from the Highlands? Can't wait to see us drown in traffic which, as you say, will not affect YOU? Thanks for your local community support.
Dan Seidel July 12, 2012 at 09:15 pm
Nice pics!!! the movies are better!! Hey Racman? can I direct the water from my basement to yours?
Dan Seidel July 12, 2012 at 09:25 pm
I'll make it easy: What's the alternative to FASNY? see pages 65-83:
http://www.cityofwhiteplains.com/dataimages/DGEIS_draft_scoping_comments.pdf but here's the catch: you have to be willing to read and think. this is getting tedious already, really really tedious
Ellen July 12, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Racman, whats wrong with a neighborhood protesting a massive, development that will knowingly destroy the neighborhood? I don't get it. You can't compare this development with RCD or GCDS and why should we worry about what the neighbors of those manicipalities would or would not do? Do you bother at all to look up stats before you post so foolishly? I agree with Dan Seidel. TAke the time to learn about this project before you post.
Joan's WP July 12, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Racman63, have you conducted a survey of Rye and Greenwich residents living nears the schools you cite? I think not. You don't have a clue what these homeowners think or how their home values are affected, so why bring it up? What is the history of these schools and their neighbors? I do know that RCDS is located right off Boston Post Rd., and I-95 in a very busy mixed area. It is not located in the middle of a peaceful, residential area zoned only for one-family homes, as is the situation in Gedney Farms. You haven't given any reason why you support FASNY. You seem to think that because it is a private school, that makes it okay to build in the least appropriate location. As for the "supposed" traffic that won't impact you, this very real traffic, which FASNY admits will increase volume on Ridgeway by at minimum 50%, will most certainly affect those living on and near Ridgeway. Nice of you to be so cavalier when you won't be affected. Those of us who oppose this massive school campus on 46 acres have given multiple reasons for our opposition. Why don't you tell us why you are for it? Are you going to say it's the Conservancy? It may never be developed. According to FASNY's own words, it is "aspirational" and way down the road -- at least 10 years -- if at all. It is based on funding. RIght now, it is a bug infested mess that you would flee from, and it will stay that way, perhaps forever.
Yvonne Gumowitz July 12, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Most WP residents with school age children will be impacted by the traffic. Two additional lights on Ridgeway plus the increase in traffic will make getting to WP High School a nightmare. Other cut throughs will be used to avoid this mess, be it Bryant, Rosedale or Maplemoore, the corner of Mamaroneck and Ridgeway is already jammed during drop off and pick up times, Welcome to White Plains... Good enough for dumping your kids off in fancy private schools but not good enough to actually live in!
Ron Rhodes July 13, 2012 at 12:26 am
Racman63,
What are you smoking? If you want FASNY in Rye, Greenwich or somewhere else find another location for them. Their neighbors in Gedney Farms have already spoken. . .they don’t want FASNY. . .that’s why all the No-FASNY signs are up all over the place. So far FASNY have proved themselves to be terrible neighbors as they cannot even keep their property up to the same maintenance level as other non-profits in the area such as Burke and New York Hospital. . .much less than up to the standards of how their current Gedney Farms neighbors keep their properties. Can you imagine how bad the FASNY property and Gedney Farms property values will look if FASNY is allowed to go forward?
Joan's WP July 13, 2012 at 01:11 am
The PR spokesman for FASNY, Geoff Thompson, apparently hasn't read the DEIS (Draft Environmental Impact Statement) submitted by his client to the Common Council. There are several references to the "aspirational" aspect of the FASNY plan for the future upgrades they plan for the Conservancy, if the funding is available. FASNY can still call the 83 acres a Conservancy without implementing the changes they hope to do.
chrisinwp July 13, 2012 at 01:47 pm
Racman, the reason it's hard to understand is because these people are either kooks (the posts speak for themselves) or self-serving. They support what serves them, and them only. Case in point, their leader SUPPORTS school expasion and its related traffic issues at the German School because HIS kids go there and HIS wife works there. See this from the Examiner, also interesting how the Patch didn't run this detail:
"Terrence Guerriere, president of the Gedney Neighborhood Association, and an outspoken opponent of the FASNY application, said he was not representing the association when he said he supported the German School’s application. “Because they are not expanding the building area, I support it,” he said. Guerriere’s wife is a teacher at the German School and their children attend the school as well."
chrisinwp July 13, 2012 at 01:56 pm
here's the other catch, there's nobody paying for it. it's all hypotheses and pipe dreams and what ifs. fasny's here right now in the real world with a checkbook and a pen, willing to give us the same thing you propose, PLUS an amazing school.
Yvonne Gumowitz July 13, 2012 at 02:00 pm
Anonymous "chrisinwp": while I'm opposed to their plains, the German School is an existing school that has been around for approximately 50 years. The neighborhood grew around it. Their expansion plans do not increase to footprint of the building. FASNY, on the other hand, is planning to build a huge complex on land that has never been built on before. Do you not understand the difference?
Ruthmarie Hicks July 14, 2012 at 03:15 am
This is a ZONING issue folks. Its also an issue of city planning. The south end is in danger of going down the tubes and since that's a big part of the tax base, its a problem.
There are just so many schools that any one area should be supporting. The south end needs to create walkable hubs so that people will actually want toe MOVE THERE. Right now its suburb surrounded by schools - the worst of both worlds given todays home buyers. They get the traffic without creating a walkable neighborhood that attracts young families. The days of separate suburbs and town centers is very much over. The area needs to change with the times or die on the vine. Meanwhile, the last thing they need is more congestion from yet ANOTHER not-for-profit. People who are gung-ho for the school need to ask themselves honestly - is it their resentment about a few "empty vessels" in Gedney that have had an "its my way or the highway" attitudes? Or is it truly on the merits of the project? Because if you dig into the facts even a little bit - 90% of the residents would realize the project will be very costly for the city and give little or nothing in return. Also, if anyone in another neighborhood thinks a big zoning issue a couple of miles away is of no consequence, guess again. Precedents are set by such big shifts in zoning and what hurts Gedney now, but come back to haunt YOUR neck of the woods later.

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